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So @SulfurBunny, I have been rereading this comic and finding myself enjoying it each time. However my friends found out I'm reading this and so they asked me a question... one that I cannot answer so I go to the comments section and ultimently you @SulfurBunny for an answer. The question is: Does enjoying this comic make me a furry? I have been plaqued for months with this question so please do me a solid and solve this conundrum. I kid you not, I actually intended to ask this in December but procrastination am I right? (ALSO IT BE GETTING TENSE IN HERE BOIIIIIIIIS)

posted by Yeet (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 2:01 am



 

and there's the kicker

posted by matttttttttttttttttttttttt (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 2:05 am



 

@matttttttttttttttttttttttt (Guest)
EYYYYYYYYYYY

posted by Yeet (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 2:06 am



 

@Yeet (Guest) I think you’re only a furry if you want to be. You could have all the furry stuff, but if you don’t want to call yourself a furry, then you’re not a furry. Really it’s more of a choice. Nothing “makes” you a furry, you’re only one if you want to be.

posted by Werwa (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 2:10 am



 

Ooff..

posted by SensingTabby (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 2:20 am



 

@Yeet

I will answer this question for you, but not as favor. I just don't want to see Sulferbunny have to actually answer this herself. (Please don't ask questions like this in the future. Things have gone really bad with the comment section in the past. Use Reddit or something else for stuff like this, please.)

Answer: No. But this site does have a lot of furry related material. Pokemon by itself doesn't make you a furry, but being obsessed with fandoms that have entire settings devoid of humans at all might. For example, MLP, Sonic, Zootopia, Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers, etc.) While there are humans in some of these, the thing that sets furries apart from non furies I've found is that...most furies (those who obsess over anything non-human) will go out of their way to avoid anything that stars human characters as the majority. You might see them try to deny this, with them telling you that they'll watch things like Batman, or the Avengers, and stuff like that. This is a lie. They are obsessed with all things that resemble animals that look humans. It is an obsession. Obsessions are not healthy, and they never will be. Anything you can think of that might be considered furry, a true furry will take to the absolute extreme. So yeah, if that's all it takes for somebody to be called a furry, then just playing the mainline pokemon games such as Pokemon Red, Blue, and yellow makes you a furry. I mean, just because you like watching anime doesn't mean you're a filthy weeabo. Rather, obsessing over anime while upholding the sacred ground of japan as the greatest place on earth simply because they make anime makes you a weeabo, because you're obsessed with it.

While being a furry is not wrong in and of itself, anyone who openly decides to be one unabashedly out in public, knowing full well that it will make them a total social pariah. If they absolutely don't care about that, and decide that they want to dress up in fur suits because it makes them happy, and don't care about the social ramifications that could result, such as job loss, loss of friends, or being labeled as weird. This is what makes a furry a furry. They don't care that they're weird, they don't care about normal, in fact, they prefer the abnormal.

Obessions are bad, whether its being an alcoholic, eating enough food to make yourself obese, watching insane amounts of pron, being heavily into drugs, idolizing criminality. These are all things society views as immoral or wrong.

As you can see, being a furry is whole different tier of weird than just simply enjoying comics with pokemon in them.

posted by Guest on April 27th, 2018, 2:34 am





 

Jen's a badass, period.
Though, I think if we're put in the same state as Jen, we'd win anyways also.

I mean, Victini fails in the most basic hand-to-hand combat rule: not elaping tour entire body to your enemy.

@Yeet (Guest) No.
Being a furry means that you have really high interest, and to some extent, turn ons, looking at, or thinking about anthropomorphized animals. Liking a comic with some fur in it doesn't make you a furry.
Hell, you can go to the depths of DeviantArt and still come out sane.

posted by ILeninVelikyNamPutOzaril on April 27th, 2018, 2:50 am





 
TKO?

Victini attempt to use scratch, Jen used Vacumm Wave. (Or just Takwando kick, I can't find much of kicking moves in Pokemon games...)

That's gotta be the end... and hope Victini have a soft (I mean, Hard) landing on those rocks.

posted by MidnightUser on April 27th, 2018, 5:26 am





 

SNAPKICK TO DA STOMACH


YAS JEN YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

posted by DragonEevee on April 27th, 2018, 6:01 am



 

Isn't she only an amateur in the martial arts? Yet she managed to use her techniques perfectly here.

posted by Numberplay (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 6:06 am





 

@Guest
You say that "being a furry is not wrong in and of itself", yet your portrayal of them in your comment is quite denigrating and unfair
Also, you have a wide interpretation of what's an obsession

@Yeet(Guest)
As @Werwa(Guest) said, you're only a furry if you consider yourself as such
And alternatively, you can ask your friends if they think that they're furries because they like The Lion King, Free Willy, Jurassic Park, Stitch or because they have a favourite animal/non-human character

posted by Noobaraptor on April 27th, 2018, 6:28 am



 

@Numberplay

I had to learn a move similar to Jen's to earn my yellow belt. I was probably the same age as her too. It's challenging but not impossible for a beginner.

She probably has a bit more strength as an Audino too.

posted by SensingTabby (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 6:39 am



 

@Guest, @Werwa, Noobaraptor, @ILeninVelikyNamPutOzaril Thank You!
And let me explain why I commented that question, and yes @Guest I also don't want @SulfurBunny have to do this either.
I want to explain that I was peer pressured into doing an allnighter to comment that, I'm still not proud, (By Peer pressure I mean literally all my friends asking me every time they see me "HAVE U DON IT YET?" "GO DU IT MATE", over a few months it somewhat drives you insane).
What was said was a script that I edited slightly and done so they will shut up about this. I never intend to cause harm here simply cause I love this community as a whole and it is truly beautiful I don't think I ever would have bought a pokemon game if it weren't for this comic.

A solid year ago I came here and it has been amazing to see the community now because there are more comments than ever! (I apologize if I caused any harm btw)
So I guess I'm here to say sorry and to keep up the good work.

posted by Yeet (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 7:58 am





 

Damn, imagine if Jen turned into a fighting type when she was brought to the Pokemon world.

posted by PJSam on April 27th, 2018, 8:42 am



  Ouch...

Victini gonna fall. Jen’s gonna do something. I hope to god it’s not what I’m thinking she’ll do. Or, not do, as the case may be.

posted by CIR (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 8:58 am



 

Jen used mega kick.

posted by Xaos (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 9:13 am



 

@Yeet

If reading this comic makes you a furry, then reading anything with talking Pokemon(like Black Adventures) or playing any Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games would make you a furry whether you want to or not.

And that’s not the case, now, is it?

Basically, take their shit with a grain of salt.

posted by Ayy Lmao (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 9:16 am



  *sigh*

@ILeninVelikyNamPutOzaril
dude seriously? lunging at an opponent is the most basic technique, it gives you momentum, if you lunge first, your body will go faster when each body strikes, all other factors being equal you'll therefore take the advantage.. of course here the other factors are very different..

also, there is a huge misunderstanding that you share with the author..

Victini being smaller is no big deal at all, she has claws! look at the size of those things! Jen is basically fighting someone that do not hesitate and have a very small knife in each hands sure they are small but as we could see in last page, they cut through Jen's skin like butter!

The only advantage Jen has is that she is about 30 kg when Victini is 4kg..

But I don't think Sulfurbunny actually went for the cannon weight..

Victini could have just sliced her throat at any moment she should be faster than an Audino..


But well I don't read this comics for the fights anyway..

@Yeet

well, the definition of furry is : someone with an affinity and/or interest for animal or animal-like character, most of the time anthropomorph or humanized in a way.. feral, wild animals are also part of an interest in the fandom but are the minority.. additionally, pokemon and MLP are important parts of the fandom all the while being their own fandom..

THe question you've got to ask yourself is, are you just a fan of pokemon or do you enjoy things like werewolves, minotaur, and other anthros in piece of medias?
If you think you're just fan of pokemon, check which are your favorite pokemon, if you find two or more of those (lucario, riolu, raichu, vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, mew, mewtwo, zeraora, zoroark, weavile, sneasel, Lugia, Blaziken, Charizard, Absol, Arcanine, Grovyle, greninja, Dewott) in your top 10, or 4 or more in your top 20, you're probably a furry nonetheless..

posted by Guest on April 27th, 2018, 9:45 am



  This is unfair

I have checked sizes and such and Audino is 1.1 meters tall and weights 31 kilograms while Victini is 0.4 meters tall and weights 4 kilograms. Whitout special attacks this is like a Velociraptor (a real life one) or a small dog against a person. That kick will kill Victini or al least broke a lot of bones. He/She won't be able to keep fighting after that for sure.

posted by Ditidos (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 10:35 am





 

@Guest you're right in a way that lunging at an opponent is the most basic move, and about the momentum and stuff. However, if you actually see the previous pages, Victini had tried that once, and failed miserably. Ze being a legendary, and particularly the one who challenges, should atleast observe the opponent.
Jen is way out of Victini's league in improvised close combat. Ze didn't see this, and ze would ultimately risk hirself being knockef out in few hits.
Claws might be a good weapon, but if Jen knows her stuff, it ain't'anna be that useful.

Oh, and, liking pokemons and other kind of furry animals/content doesn't fully make you a furry. I have 5 out of 10 of my most favourite 'mons from your list alone (Zeraora über alles), browses DeviantArt daily, draws foxes often, and went to a furcon once, but I'm still mainky and largely a mechanic and a history buff.
Being a furry or not is grey in the entirety of the area. If you admit, you're a furry. But otherwise, it's all in a grey area, a colloidal suspension of yes and no.

posted by ILeninVelikyNamPutOzaril on April 27th, 2018, 10:39 am





 

Jen's got two meta things going for her despite Victini having superior base stats. First, she's a protagonist; while not a be-all, end-all ability to not lose, it does provide for for tropes like "11th Hour Superpower". Second, this is the PMD universe, and while game mechanics are largely second fiddle to the story here, speed did kinda take a leave of absence when factoring how the games play; Super brought it back, but it affects accuracy/evasion there, not how fast you move... so yeah, she's a protagonist in a universe where speed is heavily moot.

Admittedly, as Guest mentioned, Victini's basically got a fist full of little blades, so while Jen gets a good blow with her martial arts, 003's best trick would be "Death of a Thousand Cuts", with lots of scratching across Jen as she's already done once.

posted by DrakonLameth on April 27th, 2018, 10:45 am





 
Jen Wins Round Two!

Jen is beating Victini! I wonder what happened to Team Charm, and is Gangar helping push Mew Two back up to the path?.....I hope that they get here soon! Nonetheless Jen is capable of defending her self (Clearly). I wonder if that kick only sends Vicitni in the air above her, and Victini lunges back down, full fury, at Jen, claws and all? I'm not too worried though, Jen has got this! Does anyone wonder what Wes, N, and Lovrina are doing?

posted by SmartTurtle04 on April 27th, 2018, 10:52 am



  round 2

That kick combined with the forward momentum of Victini is going to send V sailing over the edge of the island. Then we're probably going to see the old trope of Victini grabbing onto the edge with one paw, and Jen going to help pull V back up...though how it plays out from there....?

posted by Cerl (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 11:09 am





 

Kick her butt Jen!

posted by Truefan108 on April 27th, 2018, 11:37 am



 

@Noobaraptor

I'm not stating being a furry is wrong, I'm saying that society thinks it's wrong. Go on, try and convince the masses that having being a furry is great. You will fail. It doesn't matter if it's fair or not. And convincing me is pointless.

*Sigh* I tried to get ahead of this so Sulfer wouldn't have to answer this for them, but it looks like it's probably going to happen anyways.

Do you all remember what she said about controversial things such as shipping, religion, etc.)? She's probably going to disable comments now. So congratulations all, you guys can most likely kiss the comment section goodbye after this one.

Also Yeet, your friends are shit. Get new ones.

posted by Guest on April 27th, 2018, 12:01 pm





 

Hey people. There's an expression called "Don't feed the trolls." If you respond to them, they'll keep going looking for reactions.

Just ignore the posts and Sulfur will clean house when she can (or if a Smackjeeves mod/admin come across reports, they'll clean house on behalf of Sulfur).

I don't know what type of comment system Sulfur has set up, but there might be an option to disable guest posting on SJ at the very least.

EDIT - Oh and Sulfur pretty much has stopped posting replies since that comic where the expedition team set out for Destiny Tower. So I wouldn't expect any public replies.

posted by Ngamer01 on April 27th, 2018, 1:44 pm



 

Nice up-smash by Jen. Victini definitely losing a stock from that one.

posted by Thalins (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 2:12 pm



 

@Guest yeah they are, They never piss off. I leave my phone for 30 seconds or less and they’re going through my browser history, they found smackjeeves and questioned me. That’s essentially how this happened. They’re absolute twats.

posted by Yeet (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 3:08 pm



 

@Yeet if you can't trust them with your items or if they do that kind of stuff to you, you can always stop being friends.

posted by Leekodot15 (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 4:54 pm



 

she had the right thing to do.

posted by comercole on April 27th, 2018, 5:16 pm





 

GANGSTA!

posted by Shotgun Chuck on April 27th, 2018, 5:17 pm



  Nice job jen

That was unexpected but totally awesome nice work jen

posted by Julian (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 7:29 pm



 

@Thalins You can even see the little lightning bolt. That, and open sky above 'em, yeah, that just took Victini's stock for sure. Question is, is that the last?

posted by Tiberious (Guest) on April 27th, 2018, 7:38 pm





 

OOO-ooof the kick on the stomach hurts quite a lot.

posted by AndreTheLugia on April 28th, 2018, 1:55 am





 
@First comment guy

Get smarter or less judgmental friends.

Of course it doesn't.

posted by IcyLucario on April 28th, 2018, 2:38 am





 

Also ayyyy Jen's doing work.

Wonder if Gengar and Mewtwo are seeing this?


I suppose I should probably feel bad for Victini? I donno, I say she deserves a few knocks regardless if shes influenced by XD.

posted by IcyLucario on April 28th, 2018, 2:43 am



 

@Yeet: As far as I'm concerned, no, it just makes you a Pokemon fan!! It's no different than enjoying the Mystery Dungeon games. It's cool to see the world the way a Pokemon would!

posted by Swift (Guest) on April 28th, 2018, 8:17 am



 

ahhh!

there's the teakwondo!

i was beginning to wonder if the author(s) might've forgotten about that

posted by Guest on April 28th, 2018, 10:59 am



 

If Jen was a fighting type honestly she would have been so set. But Victini must never doubt the power of.... TAE KWON DO

posted by ComicLover (Guest) on April 28th, 2018, 4:20 pm





 

@yeet ... thinking about that a lot myself. If you are just looking at this comic for the story, then no, I wouldn't consider it furry, as it is just Pokemon. Now, if you are here because of the antropromorphism, then you would be a furry. It's mostly just grey area, as I've found out myself.

Oh, and about what that one guest said about furs taking everything to the extreme, that statement is mostly false. Yes, there will always be exeptions, but the majority of the community just like the idea of anthros, nothing much more. If you can, go and talk to one and then compare your interests

posted by wifijoe on April 28th, 2018, 9:43 pm





 

on the topic of furries, jacksfilms rocked that furvious outfit

posted by broccoIi on April 28th, 2018, 10:34 pm





 

This looks like something out of the karate kid at 1 point and somehow transitions to that tae Kwon doe guy from king of fighters, Kim. Also for some reason I'm thinking of a boot to the head joke. congratulations sulfur Bunny you really did a good job on this one.

Also I have seen tai kwon do masters and Practitioners and I have see kicks that don't just brake wood, but shatter bricks for God's sake.

posted by MercenaryX on April 29th, 2018, 2:26 pm





 
Karate Kid (Taekwondoe Kid) is Right!

@MercenaryX, what do you think about the "These Boots were made for walking" song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Tq9RytWZs
It is also nice to see that after 659 pages, Jen can take care of herself. I just want to see Mewtwo, or Team charm's expression's when they see Jen standing over a defeated Victini, and just stand there amazed.

posted by SmartTurtle04 on April 29th, 2018, 5:02 pm





 

@SmartTurtle04 Not a bad song, it is appropriate, but I feel like there might be something better, kung Fu fighting is overused. Maybe something out of the 80s like you got the touch or something equally as hair metal?

posted by MercenaryX on April 29th, 2018, 11:40 pm





 
The Perfect Song For This Moment?

@MercenaryX, What about "Just Beat it" by Micheal Jackson" "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen?(even though it came out in 1978) Possibly, "I'm Still Standing" by Sir. Elton John? Although they are not "Hair Metal". What about Were Not Gonna Take It" by Twisted Sister? (I googled "Hair Metal Songs") Side Note: Tomorrow is Tuesday!

posted by SmartTurtle04 on April 30th, 2018, 11:31 am



  The perfect song

How about Eye of the Tiger by Survivor?

posted by Cerl (Guest) on April 30th, 2018, 3:41 pm





 
WE MAY HAVE A WINNER!

@Cerl (Guest) Thank you for your suggestion. The Song really goes with everything. But after six rocky movies, I think the song is meant for Training mode, and not for the actual fight. But I think it would work. @MercenaryX have you ever seen a Rocky Movie?

posted by SmartTurtle04 on April 30th, 2018, 6:40 pm



 

What about Dead on Time by Queen?
Considering Jen is currently on the clock and is been just on time for each scene, I think it could be rather fitting.
However SmartTurtle04 I will agree completely on whatever you believe is good song.
(Because you seem like you know what your talking about)

posted by Guest on April 30th, 2018, 10:21 pm





 
Possibly a good choice.

@Guest, Thank you for that suggestion! That was then first time I had ever heard of that song! (Considering that I have a CD of "Queens Greatest Hits") I think it may be too fast pace though? I can see it working, though this is a song suggestion for MercenaryX after all. @MercenaryX your thoughts about "Dead on Time" by Queen?

posted by SmartTurtle04 on May 1st, 2018, 6:07 pm