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June 13th, 2017, 2:00 am

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I have to admit, that is not the reason I expected to hear.

posted by rosque (Guest) on June 13th, 2017, 2:04 am


I just love darkrai's face on third panel xDDDD

posted by JigoKuroi on June 13th, 2017, 2:07 am


Hm... Mewtwo versus Rayquaza? Now there's a fight you could sell tickets to.

Not that I'd buy one... or want to be on the same side of the planet as that fight, for that matter. But still. Pretty sure there's a business opportunity there.

posted by Malc Modnar on June 13th, 2017, 2:16 am


Not sure about Freud, or that a baby would destroy the world if it could (more likely it just wouldn't know or understand what it was doing), but the rest of his explanation sounds on point. He had knowledge, some idea of right and wrong, but no wisdom and no empathy. Only because the human perception of pokemon is that they are barely above animals and cannot be held responsible for their actions, or more likely because he was too dangerous to approach, was he allowed to skate on a list of wrongdoings that would get any human sent to the chair. When you think about it, the same is true about that Ninetales that I keep carping about.

The really scary part about Ninetales (yay for hijacking a page to rant about a personal jag right) is that he hasn't done anything that some human would not, at some point, have done in the same position, and I myself have enough rage issues that I'm not really in any position to be lecturing anyone about it. The guy who slashes your tires or keys your car because he thinks you took his parking spot, the customer who thinks they deserve a full refund over some remediable screw-up, my own passive-aggressiveness (which I need to stop, and I know it) toward people who order shakes and ice cream... that kind of stuff is what Ninety would do without the ability to dump people into a sensory deprivation void (or worse) for a thousand years. He's nothing special, he's just what happens when you take an angry, petulant human, add some very powerful ways of getting even (or a heck of a lot more than even), and remove any checks on his behavior, whether internal (conscience) or external (the deathy end of John Law's .45).

I have some ideas myself for a PMD comic, now if only I wasn't too lazy to flesh them out (and if only I could draw worth beans). If I ever do that, one of the main characters is going to be a human-turned-Vulpix, and that whole thing about the curse is going to become a major side-plot as soon as he evolves. Just shameless plugging and self-promotion for something I might not ever get around to doing.

posted by Shotgun Chuck (Guest) on June 13th, 2017, 3:55 am


To paraphrase That Dude in the Suede's Pokemon movie review, "Wow Rayquaza really sucked at his job before he was invented."

posted by PJSam on June 13th, 2017, 8:47 am


Call cops... wait no call Megarayquaza

posted by rayquazafan (Guest) on June 13th, 2017, 9:57 am


To be fair, There were only 151 pokemon during the first movie. Who the heck would of known about Rayquaza? On the other hand, Rayquaza probably would of made quite the surprise to them too.

posted by Timeheart on June 13th, 2017, 11:15 am


I finished re-reading this comic for who knows how many times now, and each time I notice something that I didn't notice the first time.

This time around I noticed that I ship Lopunny and Mewtwo. xD

posted by Critic on June 13th, 2017, 2:10 pm


Okie so @shotgunchuck, I'm writing my own comic right now. I decided NOT to go with the whole human turned pokemon plot. Love you're vulpix idea tho. I've been trying to find a way to promote my comic. With out being like "read my comic damnit!"

posted by Gen (Guest) on June 13th, 2017, 3:29 pm


Self reflection and learning from mistakes is so important, and I love how human you made mewtwo here, but I wonder what rayquasa was doing to not lay down the law on mewtwo?

Also if you read up on Frud,the man may have been brilliant, but his history gets scary when you loom into his political afflictions and some of the ideas and people he hung out with really gets frightening, eugenics anyone?

posted by MercenaryX on June 13th, 2017, 4:31 pm


Like I said, Rayquaza sucked at his job before he was invented.

posted by PJSam on June 13th, 2017, 4:34 pm


@PJSam Hindsight 20/20 man.

posted by starelement on June 13th, 2017, 6:53 pm


Hindsight is 20/20.
(I probably should've read the comments before I posted this but meh)

posted by Nashew on June 13th, 2017, 7:34 pm


Never considered Mewtwo caring much about the human history of psychoanalysis.

posted by simple_watcher on June 13th, 2017, 9:48 pm


@Gen: Glad you like it. The really stupid gimmick with this is it's not just one turned human, it's five, all from the same burger joint. Also, from an out-of-universe perspective, all inspired by either me or someone I've worked with on closing shifts before Watching the resulting personality clashes in an environment where corporate and professionalism are no longer relevant will provide most of the humor. The beginning events of the comic will be alleged to have happened in early-mid November 2016, sometime after the election but well before Trump took office, mostly because that's the last time my restaurant would have been even close to willing to pony up for 5 closers, and also because most of the people who inspired characters have either quit or been fired since then (I and one of the others are the only ones still there, and I don't close anymore so I don't know many of the current closers that well).

posted by Shotgun Chuck (Guest) on June 13th, 2017, 11:05 pm


Oof, yeah, Rayquaza would've been mad about that. That would've been a fight to see, though, since even months-old Mewtwo was probably on his level.

posted by spudwalt (Guest) on June 14th, 2017, 2:56 am


Heh, kinda same here @shotgun-chuck, all my main charters personality are each based of someone I know. Like gen ( a gengar cuz gengar is my fav pokemon) is based of of me. And ty ( a wigglytuff) is a based of a freind, and it's shiny because she's always changing her hair (sorry know it's steriotypcl to have a shiny in the comic, just an inside joke) heck, I've only gotten 25 pages done. Two pages per paper. Its hand drawn tho. So got any idea who the other Pokémon are gonna be in your vulpix series?

posted by Gen (Guest) on June 14th, 2017, 9:22 am


Just realized how many Uber's are on this page.... damn you smogon.....

posted by Gen (Guest) on June 14th, 2017, 9:24 am


Was ray-quay just sitting on his flying snake aZZ drinking Mountain Dew? And meteoroids? Jeez I always wonder why Pokémon rarely leave their reigons. Except for that one time with latias/latios in heartgold .

posted by Gen (Guest) on June 14th, 2017, 9:32 am


Wouldn' causing an extinction level event also get the attention of zygarde isn't his job to stop sudden drastic changes to the environment?

posted by Guest on June 14th, 2017, 12:49 pm


@Gen: Actually thought quite a lot about it... so far the five mains I've got are:

Eevee: Shift super from the burger joint, always seems to be an inch from snapping, but never does. Can be a bit of a pill sometimes, does not suffer slackers gladly, but is always willing to pitch in and bail someone out if they're really trying. Frequently, her efforts go unappreciated by her superiors. Married as a human, so suffers an entirely different level of freakout when she wakes up along with the rest of the crew in the Pokemon dimension. Her highest goal throughout the comic is to turn back into a human and return to the human dimension. The others stay with her, mostly, for lack of anything better to do and/or because they want the same thing; this is what keeps the crew together and adventuring. (RL inspiration for this character is still working there).

Glameow: General manager from same restaurant. Old, tired, and, as a human, in failing health. Bit of a strange personality; sometimes she really seems to care and will go out of her way to make her employees' lives better, other times she's stone cold and can say stuff like "work like it's an emergency all the time" with a straight face. (RL inspiration for this character got tired of the restaurant owning her life and quit).

Vulpix: A bottom-level cashier from same restaurant. Gets on very poorly with rulemongers and "bean counter" types. Bit of an odd dude, some people like him, some think he's frickin' weird. Tends to be petulant and obnoxious at times, has a big mouth, and has a lot of self-inflicted handicaps as a Pokemon due to fears of engaging in "witchcraft" though these lessen as time goes on. (RL inspiration for this character is me, and still working there. Originally, I chose Vulpix for my blatant self-insert because "hey it can control fire so cool", and even considered using Ice Vulpix because I'm Alaskan and proud, but now that I have a whole huge side-plot around the swirling maelstrom of idiocy that is Ninetales and their society, I'm not changing it).

Houndour: Immature, lowbrow anti-theist who listens to sweary gangsta rap and considers the hilarity of a joke to be directly proportional to its offensiveness. His entire MO is "evil = cool" and so uses whatever "dark" powers his new body can at every opportunity. Despite this he is usually somewhat competent. (RL inspiration for this character ended up fired for a no call/no show, implied to be far from his first). Might find another species for this guy as there's already a fire-type on the team; if anyone has suggestions that are thematically appropriate and aren't Poochyena or Scraggy, I'll take them.

Tyrouge: Hanger-on of Houndour's. Basically, imagine a generic public-schooled 17-year-old white male, and you have this guy - doesn't really like to work and isn't really the best at it either, but has plenty of ego. Hanger-on of Houndour's, and picks on anyone who looks like an easy target because he likes the reaction. Also has no compunctions about lying his way out of trouble (but is bad at it), and likes to front and brag about things that are almost 100% guaranteed to not be true. (RL inspiration for this character ended up fired for no call/no show and poor work performance.)

The other stupid gimmick? None of them are from the human-inhabited side of the Pokemon world. They're all from the "real" world, i.e. the one we live in where Pokemon is just a video game/TV show, and only the three males (due to being younger) even know anything at all about Pokemon.

(Yay more pagejacking! To talk about my own non-existing-yet comic on someone else's that actually does! Wooo aren't I cool!)

posted by Shotgun Chuck (Guest) on June 15th, 2017, 1:10 am


@Nashey @PJSam @starelement

Given how much Mewtwo is doing some hindsight, it seems everyone is doing it now.

So am I it seems.

posted by MercenaryX on June 15th, 2017, 11:17 am