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December 16th, 2016, 1:59 am




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aww

posted by Guest on December 16th, 2016, 2:11 am





 

Darkrai was once one of my least favorite Pokemon... This comic has made me think otherwise.

posted by Critic on December 16th, 2016, 2:19 am





 

Oh.

Suddenly his behavior at the start of the comic makes a LOT more sense.

posted by Malc Modnar on December 16th, 2016, 3:54 am





 

Mew Mew Mew me-uw... Mew Mew MEW!
Translation:
Poor Darkri... He needs a HUG!

posted by Pure umbreon on December 16th, 2016, 6:31 am





 

Augh, my heart, this is so sweet and so sad all at once, help me, I can't handle all this emotion!

I'd ask for someone to give Darkrai a hug, but considering how freaked out he looks when Jen's just pulling pondweed off of him, that might not be the most comforting thing she could do. I think she's doing the right thing here, just sitting with him.

I'll be honest, I was expecting his rampage to go on much longer than it did, but thinking about it, it makes sense. He had one moment where he snapped and got shocked out of it. Of course, now we have a new set of problems: If he gets set off so easily, how are they going to bring him to Pokemon Square? Heck, how were they going to do that in the first place, considering how scared people must be of him?

OK, so, two questions: What did Darkrai do exactly that was so horrible, and was he XD002 when he did it?

posted by ReaderWriterNerd&Geek on December 16th, 2016, 7:31 am





 

In PMD Time/Darkness/Sky Darkrai accomplishes the following:

Pull strings and arrange matters behind the scenes to drive Dialga insane, as a result freeze the planet outside of time causing it to be paralyzed in an eternal dead darkness with no sun, sky or life, cause you the Player to be turned into a Pokemon and have your memory erased when you were sent back in time to undo his work, and when foiled in that respect pull strings and arrange matters behind the scenes to make you the Player think you were the reason it all happened and that it'll happen again unless you commit suicide to remove yourself from the time stream.

...So nothing too heinous, I guess?

posted by sulfurbunny on December 16th, 2016, 8:06 am





 

Holy Molly

But what was the purpose of that?
Are we here implying that "he" was working for a certain someone?

posted by Noobaraptor on December 16th, 2016, 10:30 am





 

I guess it makes sense that he chose Jen as a way of getting back at Lovrina.

posted by PJSam on December 16th, 2016, 11:28 am



 

@Noobarapter He was trying to become a sith lord like me. And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling pokemon and all that annoying power of friendship nonsense!

Grrr! (Instantly loses his shit and begins breaking all furniture around himself)

posted by Lord Sidious (Guest) on December 16th, 2016, 12:22 pm





 

@sulfurbunny: I...guh...whit.

Wait, they had "you must commit suicide to stop this" in a children's game?!

OK, wow, Darkrai. Suddenly I understand Lopunny's hostility a lot better. What the readers saw as Darkrai's genuine desire to atone, she probably just saw as manipulation.

But was Darkrai XD002 when he tried all that, or was that purely on him? Because if it was purely on him...OK, what Lovrina did was still horrible and he seems to be genuinely trying to be a better person, but *dang*, that's a lot.

Then again, Mewtwo once tried to wipe out all life on the planet, and I can forgive him for that.

posted by ReaderWriterNerd&Geek on December 16th, 2016, 1:54 pm





 

D'aww~

posted by Nashew on December 16th, 2016, 11:20 pm



 

@ReaderWriterNerd&Geek: sulfurbunny didn't elaborate on whether Darkrai had already been XD'ed when PMD TDS happened, but I suspect he was. Bit foggy on this, and I'm not sure how it would work out in terms of the timestream (though remember that Darkrai can time travel), but I'm pretty sure what happened is:

Cipher grabbed Darkrai and started doing its work on him. Somewhere in the process, he reached a point where he could take no more and decided to peace the heck out, causing (probably intentionally) much spilling of blood and tears as he went. He then ran off to Almia, where he got caught in the events of Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia, wherein he viciously guarded some manner of evil black gemstone due to being under its influence and the influence of a machine powered by said evil dark gemstone, built by a guy also under the influence of said evil dark gemstone. A brave hero too young to drink, smoke, or drive came along and snapped him out of it with the power of rainbows and friendship and ponies, which resulting in said evil dark gemstone getting de-darkified by some other gemstones. Cipher, meanwhile, was having none of this, and sent Victini to grab him. After the Altru Inc./Team Dim Sun incident, he fled even further into Almia, into the No Huminz Alowd Nanner Nanner Boo Boo Zone and reverted again, at which point he caused the events of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon T/D/S to happen, probably using some manner of loltimetravel since it seems like those events would take some time to set up. The pint-sized powerhouses of Team PokePals then infiltrated his horribly cliche volcano base and beat the ever-lovin' snot out of him and his minions, at which point he attempted to loltimetravel once more, only for Palkia to get really tired of his BS and literally slam the door on his face. This sound drubbing finally snapped him out of it, causing him to grow a conscience and become repentant for his attempts to turn the entire world into ruination. Unfortunately, before he could do anything with that, Victini caught up with him and dragged him off to the Buried Relic to use as a minion. She needed a human to get at the big glowy reject-your-reality-and-substitute-my-own machine, and somehow couldn't/didn't want to bring one over herself, so she forced Darkrai to do it instead. Darkrai handed Jen her Poke-Hogwarts letter (possibly, as another commenter suggested, because he was still angry at her sister Lovrina for turning him into cancer) and that's where Victory Fire picks up. Get all that?

@sulfurbunny: am I correct or way off base here?

posted by Shotgun Chuck (Guest) on December 17th, 2016, 4:05 am





 

I'm not too familiar with the Ranger games as I'd never played them myself, but in any case, there are only a few ways that the backstory for that could be handled. And all of them mostly depend on whether or not the Rise Of Darkrai and/or Pokemon the Movie: Black/White are canon in this story.

1. Pokemon Black and White Movie: It would have had to happen immediately after that movie, right near the end of the black and white saga for the timeline to add up.

2. The movies are still canon, and Darkrai has been like this for years, whereby him being tortured and experimented on was happening behind the scenes probably during or a bit before the D&P episode where Cresselia appeared and fought him (Which is probably close to or around the time that Tobias acquired him and made him compete in the Pokemon League during the Diamond & Pearl saga, meaning that Tobias might have a minor connection to Cipher.) or somewhere far off into the future.

or

3. There is more than one Darkrai and more than one Victini, and these aren't the same ones that appeared in the movies or the anime.



Unfortunately, Darkrai has too many appearances in the anime, which sadly means that there is very little wiggle room to work with, so if there really is only one Darkrai, then these comic only events would have to either happen within a very small timeframe or a couple years into the future so that it doesn't interfere with the movies or the anime at all.

Personally, I think it would be awesome and insanely meta if during that one episode in the Kalos season that he trolled Ash and his friends with that nightmare, that he was trying to decide whether or not to turn either Ash or one of his friends into a Pokemon after being forced by Victini to seek out a pure hearted human child to open the door for her, but backed out because of the events that happened in Rise of Darkrai. That would be pure genious in my opinion :)

posted by XD-MADNESS on December 17th, 2016, 8:18 am





 

@XD-MADNESS: That's something I have trouble with, lore-wise. We know Victory Fire ties the game and anime canons together, but how Darkrai fits into it with regards to the anime is a bit squishy. Are we dealing with the same Darkrai that Ash ran into? Did Ash run into the same Darkrai each time? Even ignoring the fact that the movies and and anime contradict themselves, it makes establishing a timeline tricky here. I'm curious as to what Sulfur's canon is.

That said, I think Shotgun Chuck is spot on with Darkrai's history when it comes to the games. He was up to some pretty nasty stuff in Almia as well, so it's easy to see him retreating to the PMD 'verse after getting chased out by the Pokemon world's equivalent of a special forces team.

We also know he was in Sinnoh at some point, but whether his actions there were a result of active malice or just him accidentally causing nightmares isn't clear.

posted by Malc Modnar on December 17th, 2016, 2:39 pm



 

sez pjsam: "I guess it makes sense that he chose Jen as a way of getting back at Lovrina."

Mmm… don't think so. Given what we've seen of the Darkrai/Victini backstory, it sure looks like Darkrai has been trying to avoid doing unnecessary damage all along. And if that's the case, it's a good bet that D. didn't want to shanghai a genuinely good-hearted human if he could help it. Since Lovrina was a total jerkwad, D. may have figured that Lovrina's sister would be a total jerkwad, too, and… well… "it wouldn't matter" if D. shanghaied an asshole.

Or not, I dunno.

posted by Cubist on December 18th, 2016, 3:42 am



 

Speaking about the movies in general, the next one is about Ho-Oh guys! I mean, damn, its about time that thing showed up.

posted by Guest on December 18th, 2016, 9:24 am





 

@Shotgun Chuck, @XD-MADNESS, and @Malc Modnar: I love it when I accidentally start discussions XD

Thanks for all your help and explanations and suppositions, guys! Yeah, the timeline here does seem very fuzzy. Darkrai's either capable of being in two places at once, he has a twin brother, or he's very busy. X)

posted by ReaderWriterNerd&Geek on December 24th, 2016, 8:24 pm