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  Gengar is...?

Wait... How *Old* is Gengar? The region has been set apart for so long most Pokemon to have forgotten the event or been born before it. Was part of Gengar's curse immortality? A side effect of being ghost type?

posted by Draken09 (Guest) on October 23rd, 2015, 3:24 am


Yeah. Cowardice is one thing. But purposefully blaming it to others? He almost get the human hero killed as his scapegoat! And terrorizing their dream too.

posted by Guest on October 23rd, 2015, 5:24 am


It was just one time, jeez!

posted by Axies on October 23rd, 2015, 7:16 am


I still think Ninetails is a bit of a jerk though.

posted by PJSam on October 23rd, 2015, 9:11 am


@Axies: You only really need to betray someone once before it's a huge problem.

posted by Luigi_96 on October 23rd, 2015, 4:42 pm


Goodnees, and we thought Grimm's Fairy Tales was harsh!

posted by Goosygander (Guest) on October 23rd, 2015, 6:25 pm


I understand separating the island from the world interacted by humans; though not all, humans can be very cruel, so it's good that Pokemon have SOME refuge.
Gengar still seem to regret what he did, but he has a lot of explaining to do to Jen.

posted by MiniDragonfly on October 24th, 2015, 7:11 am

  This ninetails

I looooooove this ninetails

posted by Assana (Guest) on October 24th, 2015, 2:00 pm



Who is the tard?

A. The brainiac who became Gengar, who pulled on a Ninetales' tail

B. The Gardevoir who stepped in to make a noble, yet stupid sacrifice instead of just teleporting the both of them somewhere very, very far away because, you know, Gardevoirs can do that

C. The Ninetales who is so galactically stuck up that he has to curse SOMEBODY, even though the choice is between someone who's obviously not worth chasing and someone who didn't even look at him funny, let alone do anything to him.

The correct answer is D. FREAKING EVERYONE. But especially this guy who's currently infodumping.

Seriously, however, I do firmly believe that, while human!Genger was both a jerk and not very smart, Ninetales is the true villian of this tale. First because I'm a Christian and consider petty vengefulness morally wrong. Ninety, however, is obviously not, so we'll move on to the second reason, pure pragmatism - revenge takes time and energy that can be better spent elsewhere, and ends up dragging down the one seeking it as much as the intended target. Don't believe me? Try playing a shooter game, or an arcadey racing game, and try to get revenge on everyone who kills you/runs you off the road. You will do poorly and die about 31 million times while tunnel-visioning on them. And finally, if you really do want to see the jerk suffer, there are better ways... like just plain waiting. Someone like that will hose himself sooner or later. That, I also know from personal experience. Finally, if you are going to be petty-vengeful and act like it's a good thing, at least let the punishment fit the crime. This Ninetales only knows one level of retribution, and that's "horrifyingly disproportionate".

Because I'm not a Ninetales, I'm 21 years old with maybe 60 left IF something other than old age doesn't get me before then. And yet, ol' Freezy, who's lived how many years now, hasn't managed to figure any of that out. In the immortal words of Antoine Dodson, "You are so dumb! You are really dumb! For real!"

And that's not even getting to the part where he's still completely triggered over it years/decades/centuries later. And people say I need to get a life. Though Gengar is obviously repentant at this point, if I was him, I would probably still be amused on some level that I'd been living rent free in Ninety's head all these years.

And yes, I do know whereof I speak here. I've been there myself. I was that guy who, if you ran me off the road in Need for Speed, would stop at nothing to wreck you as many times as you'd wrecked me. I even once tried to wipe Bronyism off the face of the Internet over a trivial invasion of one funny picture thread on one forum. But over time, things changed. Part of it was, I learned that I was only dragging myself down with my endless revenge quests. Part of it was, I started to realize that I was not so squeaky clean myself. Glass houses, stones, and all that. Part of it was, with my quest to end bronyism in particular, I realized that using what amounted to KGB tactics to rid the internet of a long-past-its-freshness-date non-menace was not good or right or justifiable in any way. And the last part of it was, I just plain stopped caring. It's not that I don't think My Little Pony is complete trash, I still wouldn't be caught dead watching it, it's just that I have more important things to worry about than people who think otherwise. And it's not like I don't still have these tendencies, it's just that I've learned that giving them free rein probably won't end well. Again, I learned these things over the course of about five years out of a 21-year (so far) span, in many cases without having to even leave my house to do it. So again, how has this Ninetales, who can live up to a thousand years and is implied to have reached a significant fraction of that already, still ignorant of them?

The more I think about it, the more this Ninetales sounds like a mob boss to me. The difference being, he really seems to think he's all righteous and stuff.

In conclusion: Book 'im, Danno, murder one.

One final aside: I'd love to see the look on Ninety's face if he came to the human world and realized that the jerkiness he bemoans here (without, of course, realizing that he's a next-level jerk himself) is pretty common in human-human interactions as well, to the point where whole concepts and structures, such as labor unions, have arisen specifically to keep people like human!Gengar from reaching the point where the authorities have to get involved. Minor personal slights, many of them in the same vein as Ninety's hated tail yanks (one of my co"worker"s once even tried to pull my mustache off, and NO I'm not in any way making that up), are so common here that it would be easier to count the times someone isn't annoying you in some way. Sometimes these slights are even a gesture of friendship, somehow. Someone who gets that triggered over every little thing isn't going to last five minutes without collapsing under the sheer physical weight of all the baggage they're willingly accumulating.

posted by Shotgun Chuck (Guest) on November 30th, 2016, 11:50 pm


@Shotgun Chuck Wait, wah...huh? Not sure if Reddit post, or indirect rant against Ninetails.
And most of those other things have nothing to do with pokemon at all :(

posted by ??? (Guest) on December 1st, 2016, 3:37 pm


@??? Probably both. It started as a very direct rant against Ninetales, and then I went way overboard with the supporting material and personal anecdotes, because once I start pontificating it's very difficult to make me stop. So, tl;dr version: this Ninetales is both a first class jerk and really, really stupid, especially for someone who's had as many years of experience as he apparently has. What this guy does isn't just slashing someone's tires because they stole your parking space or went slow in front of you. It's more akin to rigging someone's car with a thoroughly excessive quantity of thermite charges wired into the ignition system because they stole your parking space or went slow in front of you. Or, in this specific case, rigging someone else's car with thermite because they stood up for the first guy. That kind of mindset, especially without restraint (as in this case), is quite simply a menace to society.

The divide between worlds described in this strip is probably the only reason Ninety hasn't been involuntarily introduced to the grim reaper by someone's thoroughly irate next of kin.

posted by Shotgun Chuck (Guest) on December 1st, 2016, 9:54 pm



The more I think about it here, the more I think this Ninetales (or maybe the species in general) has some serious cult of personality going on.

Honestly, it's like the 2016 presidential election. I voted for you-know-who, but I can fully admit he's not infallible and has done & said a lot of stuff I don't care for. A lot of people... can't. At one point a certain TV personality, acting as a debate moderator, kind of ran a hit job on him, and instead of just saying so, he took some incredibly vulgar shots at her. Instead of calling him out, a certain conservative news source gleefully chronicled the one-time moderator's downfall after that, as everyone cheered along. Now granted, calling him out might have been a strategic disaster, but I'm not going to get into that here lest I annoy the Bunny of Sulfurs (more than I already have). I can admit that the person I'm talking about lowered himself massively with those jabs, but a lot of people couldn't, because they wanted to believe he was perfect.

Ninetales here... may not be a 1:1 comparison, but some of the signs are similar. He did a Very Bad Thing and everyone knows it, but everyone defends him and blames the one who set him off instead... like they believe, or want to believe, that Ninetales in general or this one in particular are perfect or somehow closer to perfect than anyone else. I'd say not so much. Because if we all lived like this Ninetales, we'd all have killed each other by now, because in the grand pantheon of annoying personal slights, things similar to tail pulling are freaking tame. Ninetales himself certainly seems to think he is, considering he still feels justified in what he did to Gardevoir.

That is an interesting point anyway, though. You never hear anything about a Ninetales going off to put a curse on a politician because their tax plan put half the country out of work, even though for level of damage that far exceeds getting a tail pulled. I guess it does go to show that the greatest temptation to engage in vengeful behavior doesn't necessarily come from things of world-shattering importance. It comes from the minor, stupid things that surround us every day. Temptation to vengeance isn't the politician who sells you down the river or the shadowy NGO that got him elected. It's the guy right in front of you going 10 under the limit when you're already late for work. It's the co"worker" who stands around cracking dirty jokes and deliberately getting in the way while you're trying to work. It's the boss who thinks grown men don't need lunch or writes you up for things most people would neither notice nor care about. It's the neighbor who cusses you out when you tell them to keep their dog in their own yard and the guy who whips right into the parking space you had your eye on. But, somehow, we here in civilized society mange to handle these kinds of things without getting violent, and there's a place for those who don't - it's full of square gray rooms and surrounded by 30-foot-tall razor wire fences.

We have seen that some form of policing does exist in the PMD universe, so why haven't we yet seen a wanted poster with Ninety's face on it - or a character who calls him like he is rather than making excuses for him?

I guess what it comes down to is - are pokemon sapient, and thus responsible for their actions, or are they superpowered animals? Everything I see points to the former. The latter idea is much more excusable in the human lands, where people don't seem to realize that pokemon are sapient (even though they say at the same time that Alakazam has an IQ of "how does IQ even work"), but less so among pokemon. And I don't care what you say, trapping someone in the void for a thousand years over a minor annoyance that wasn't even their fault, is objectively wrong.

Interestingly enough, there seems to be an insidious tendency towards moral equivalence with a lot of this stuff. To God, sin is sin, but among imperfect equals, there have to be degrees or levels of badness in order for a society to function, along with a recognition of the fact that two wrongs don't make a right. But yet we have Gengar now really believing that the annoying pranks he used to pull were as bad as trying to suck out someone's life (strip about 100 before this one). He was a jerk and he did do some pretty awful stuff, but the malicious mischief is not on that level even if there was a lot of it.

posted by Shotgun Chuck on January 13th, 2018, 5:23 pm


To quote shotgun chuck in shorter words:

Ninetails is a fucking dick

posted by :T (Guest) on May 3rd, 2018, 9:51 pm